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From: Ericka (
Subject: Re: Denise---BAckground PART II
Date: November 14, 2006 at 2:25 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Denise---a question about TR-damaged hair posted by Denise Kingsley on November 13, 2006 at 8:21 pm:

So, day of TR came. (BTW, system was something I never heard of, by "Zotos" -- not Yuko or Liscio -- and it WAS thio based. Stylist said this did not matter, they are all the same basically. It WAS a color-treated formula, I do remember.) Did porosity equalizer, then the straightening solution, then the ironing, then the neutralizer. Also, the iron was not part of the "system." Just an iron.

I knew something was wrong right away because it did not feel or look as I had hoped--or as it had been the day she ironed it during the consult on my untreated (non-TR, that is) hair. It felt rougher, stiffer, and not silky or soft, and had less shine. It looked weird when wet too. But she ironed it out again (to be specific, she blow-dried it then ironed it thoroughly out... and it looked...okay. Not as good as i'd hoped but I could live with it. It seemed like it should feel as soft and silky as regular ironed-out hair--with little to no extra ironing or blowdrying. The good cases of TR seem to end up like that. I knew my hair had been a borderline candidate and that the chemicals were making the difference now. But I was not aware that there would be THAT much difference in the feel of the hair after TR. I thought it was supposed to feel BETTER.

Freom the time I got home, my hair felt funny--more and more as days went on. It felt hard and stiff, rather than soft, silky and very flat/thin/smooth the way it was that first time she ironed it. The underneath felt even more rough and strange. And the upper part of my hair was much worse than the lower,which was the opposite of her concern--she felt that my ends were biggest risk. The roots felt awful. The first inch or two of hair seemed to have suffered the most. The bottom half of the hair was more okay, though it was ALL rougher and drier and far less soft or silky than I expected. The roots, especially in certain spots such as one particular area off the crown, felt bizarre--hard, wiry, rough, crimpy. My roots, which were the newest hair and supposedly the most healthy, fared the worst.

I wondered if it was NOT advisable to color roots the night before a TR after all, and perhaps the two-week period before that I read about is better. Or perhaps the neutralizer did get too close to the scalp. I was terrified that this would mean seriously breaking hair in a few weeks.

I was very concerned about the much talked about 48-72 hour period despite her laconic attitude about it not being that big a deal, and I found this frustrating because NOWHERE in *anything* I read did I see how to SLEEP on the hair without bending it. (SOMEONE should remedy this--everyone talks about not tucking it behind your ears for heaven sake; sleeping usually does a lot weirder things to hair than that! What are you supposed to do, stay up for 48 hours?) I tried pulling it up, leaving it down--no go. Especially the first two mornings after, my hair had crimps in it, sometimes literal right angles of hair sticking out. It had waves and ripples and bends and strange dull chunks. I had to iron those spots out again each morning, They'd then stay okay till the next morning and then there'd be more. And three weeks on, at this point, btw, it STILL happens. Less,but still. My hair is still taking a bend when pressed a certain way for 7 hours. I still iron these out meticulously each morning.


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