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From: Ericka (
Subject: Re: Denise---a question about TR-damaged hair (ANSWERS)
Date: November 14, 2006 at 1:38 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Denise---a question about TR-damaged hair posted by Denise Kingsley on November 13, 2006 at 8:21 pm:


It doesnt bother ME at all if you ask lots of questions--I LIKE your answers, that's why I directed my Qs at you.:)

To answer the above, when it is wet, it feels very hard, stiff and rough.

if I take one strand and pull it (did you mean wet or dry)?--well, when dry, MOST of the time it stretches and goes back. I tried it a bunch of times and most stretched, but a couple snapped off.

When one of the twirly-wavy-weird-twisty-crimpy-when-wet strands is pulled straight, it bounces back to that strange state when I let it go.

Once I detangle it--very very slowly and carefully and with great difficulty getting a comb through, even with well-conditioned hair and with detangler in--it WILL stay fairly detangled. But right out of the shower it is a stiff, dry-when-wet, snarled hunk (and I shampoo and condition oh so carefully, gently combing excellent conditioner through withy my fingers)...

After detangling: If I gently blow dry it with a heat protectant (OR air dry with a heat protectant or oil on), then smooth it minimally with a ceramic tourmaline flatiron, then put some oil in it...it feels okay. Not broomlike, not like when wet. *Almost* soft, fairly smooth on top. And once I have done this, I CAN run my fingers through it nicely. So I guess the answer is--it is much better once dried. Not supersoft and silky like it was when I got it ironed out *before* TR, but quite livable.

Even then,though, when you look close up you can see that it does not have a smooth glossy surface--from far it looks straight, and has some sheen from the oil, but close up you can see a sort of rough, slightly fuzzy surface and that it is not a smooth sealed cuticle. Basically it looks like hair that has been straightened, and not so well--not like real straight hair.

Now, if I let it dry totally naturally, and do not iron and gloss/oil, I have "wavy" hair--but not nice normal loose wavy; real normal-looking waves would be okay with me)--I'm talking WEIRD supertight crimps and kinks like a bad perm. Limp, straight-hanging-down twists of wiggy strands. Kinda like those pictures of DNA--clumps of fine spirals. (Does this make sense--I'm trying really hard to describe) And with broken-looking bits sticking out at right angles in places. About 60-70% of it is like that. Then of the remaining, some dries straight (mostly the ends, I bet b/c the ends WERE processed less time b/c she was worried about them,ironically), some fuzzy/fried looking (mostly the roots, front, middle sections). And all stiff. It's definitely unnatural looking. (This ain't one o' them "no styling needed" TRs. ;->

I have written a lot more about the detail of what happened, maybe I'll try to post it again.



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