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From: Denise Kingsley (straighttalkers.lamasbeauty.com)
Subject: Re: Trying to decide about TR
Date: October 11, 2006 at 7:10 am PST

In Reply to: Trying to decide about TR posted by Michelle on October 11, 2006 at 5:01 am:

It seems, by your posting, that you have carefully researched and thought all of this through.

The grow out process will be well worth the results that a TR will give you compared to a Sodium Hydroxide relaxer.
It is absoloutely imperative that the TR chemicals are not applied over the previous relaxer, so yes, it must be grown out. You did not say how long your hair is now?

You should make sure that when your color is applied, it is not overlapped, or applied to the previously colored hair. Many stylists have the habit of pulling the permanent color through the ends to "refresh" the color. This is a bad practice and will not provide any positive results for the color, or the condition of the hair.

A "Very Experienced" TR Expert, could start you on the process once you have grown out a bit more and have some hair to work with. I would, and have done this with clients who have sodium hydroxide relaxers. I protect the previously relaxed hair with the utmost protection, to make sure there is no overlapping. This procedure does not provide perfect results, however, it makes everything easier for the client during the grow out.

As far as your daughter, I am not a big fan of ISO. I think their perms and curl reducers work well, I just hate the smell it leaves in the hair. No matter how long I rinse and no matter what array of products I use after, I still smell the chemicals. I would suppose that is a personal preference.

The chemicals are compatible with the TR chemicals. However, I would suggest going with the TR and not bothering with other chemicals. Since her hair is "Virgin" it would be wise to do the TR process on that virgin hair, it can be done over, but then you will be dealing with different porosities, and processing times. It could be fine, it all depends on the experience level of the person doing the TR.

As far as type of color to use on your hair, any permanent color should be fine, with 20 vol developer, as long as it is properly applied.

My biggest concern here is the 'mechanical damage" you are creating on your hair when styling. Dryers and irons make things much worse, and degrade the hair far worse than any chemical. Make sure to use a heat protector on your hair before drying and ironing. Make sure to comb all of your conditioners through the hair to evenly distribute.

I wish you were here in Denver, I love to help people make the transition from fried, broken, poorly colored,frizzy, curly hair, into beautiful rich looking shiny smooth hair.

It is not just a service to me, it is the ability to change a life. I have strong relationships with my clients and work with them every step of the way, from the preparation, to how to care for the hair afterwards. It is all about the details.

In my opinion, the products you are using are fine, however, it would help you if you used products that are designed to tame that hair.

I like Redken Smooth Down, it works great and is easy to get. Use the heat glide for protection. You can still use the conditioning balm, and the cere repair.
My favorite smoothing gel is Aquage. All of these products are pretty heavy, and once your hair is TRd, you should be able to back off a bit.

I wish you and your daughter much happiness, and I think it is wonderful that you are so concerned in helping her from the start, on the path to managable hair. If there is any way I can help, just ask!!

Denise Kingsley
Denver Colorado

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